Overheard today:

Little girl is complaining that her baby sister is hitting her.

Mother: "Why don't you hit her back? You're bigger than her!"

Oy.

From: [identity profile] foomf.livejournal.com


"Excuse me, madam, not to intrude, but could I get your name and address for the report I'm about to file with the child protective services?"

"Excuse me, madam, but I'd like to congratulate you, seldome have I ever seen anyone training her daughter to harm her younger daughter, and as you are the kind of trash that we want out of the gene pool, your actions will do this nicely."

"Excuse me, little girl, but your mother is bothering me by being very stupid, may I hit her?" (and if she says no,) "Thank you for being much smarter than your mother." (and if the mother protests,) "She has as much right to give me permission to strike you as you have to give her permission to strike her sister, you abysmal zit on the nose of America."

Or even

"Congratulations, madam, you have fully embraced the concept of terrorism, and have begun teaching it to your daughter. I imagine by the time she's ten, she'll be fully equipped to kill other people for whatever foolish reason you concoct, if she hasn't already done that to you."

From: [identity profile] dvandom.livejournal.com


I think she was trying to be sarcastic, but sarcasm is kinda wasted on 4 year olds.

From: [identity profile] foomf.livejournal.com


Which makes it even more imperative that someone needs to shame her.


But I think you're giving her far too much credit, since she was also taunting the girl for being chicken.

From: [identity profile] recharge138.livejournal.com


Honestly, if I'd witnessed this exchange and heard you say any of that, I'd assume you were a raving loon.

Especially the child services line.

From: [identity profile] foomf.livejournal.com


Good for you! You're not a moomie!
Your average moomie would hear cpd and go into a huge defensive tirade that I would dare to criticise how she raised her baybeeee and so forth.
Some of the other stuff might get slight variations on same.

However... did I anywhere say that I would, or Dave should, say any of this out loud?

This is merely what I fantasize, because moomie is legally allowed to teach whatever braindamage she wants to dear little Kinderkilla. Children, unlike pit bulls, may be taught to attack without legal ramification to the trainer.

From: [identity profile] recharge138.livejournal.com


I'm aware of the childfree communities and so forth. Funny stuff, but often as zealous as the type of parents they ridicule.

I just think that Dave heard five seconds of a family conversation out of context and you're hearing it second hand, and your first thought is "Child services!" is about as bad as anything the KIDZ R EVERYTHING people do.

Also, I think the idea of "don't take shit from people you don't have to" is a good thing to teach kids.

From: [identity profile] dvandom.livejournal.com


Well, I have enough context to know it's just bad parenting, not actual abuse. These kids are gonna curse like sailors when they hit elementary school, based on the example they're getting, though.

From: [identity profile] foomf.livejournal.com


Ah, conclusion jumping, my favorite spectator sport.

I'm not a member of the childfree communities. My wife and I were unable to have children before she died, and she did follow the communities when it was clear that we wouldn't be able to, but neither of us went into the lunacy stage.

As I said, those are the snarky thoughts that run through my head when I see these little snippets in real life, and not really what I'm likely to do.

Irrespective, it's bad parenting to tell your kid to hit your other kid; it's not relevant at all to 'don't take shit from people you don't have to' and reinforces an adversarial situation inside the family, where teaching her better coping methods will mean she'll use them in other situations.

From: [identity profile] recharge138.livejournal.com


Bad parenting is subjective. Better coping methods like "Run to momma for help" or "Just take it?" I don't get it.

Kids fight. Tired moms make snarky comments at their kids. Nothing in life is perfect.

Personally, if I have kids, I'm of the "let the kid stick the penny in the light socket and see what happens" kind of guy.

From: [identity profile] recharge138.livejournal.com


ALso, sorry to lump in those communities, but the snark words you were using are pretty common there. My bad, bouncing panda person.

From: [identity profile] foomf.livejournal.com


Ignore that earlier remark, as my brain is elsewhere.

As evidenced in another thread, use of jargon does not necessarily mean that one is a member of the group which originated the jargon.

I believe Rap music contains numerous current examples.

From: [identity profile] z-gryphon.livejournal.com


... because as we all know, being pompous at total strangers is the absolute best way to act as a force for social improvement.
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